For Derek no.2

For Derek no.2

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I think these were shot with the 400mm lens…

And this is Derek’s wonderful blog! Pay a visit !

http://dehk.wordpress.com/

28 thoughts on “For Derek no.2

  1. Thank you Eldin! The peculiar thing is that although both films were developed at the same time and some stills come from even the same film, each lens created a different effect on the negative! The photos with the 400mm (today’s post) were grainy, yesterdays with the 50mm, were milky, while the day after tomorrow (which is mixed but most with a small tele) are the ones that can be considered normal. I like 2-3 from each post, but i am not that crazy about them! Maybe, if I ever do a film , I will be able to use them!

  2. Thank you my friend. And while you at it you should consider keep the blog going. After all I never got the notion that it is a 365 blog. Might as well keep it going, and make more friends!

        • It is not as if I’m leaving. The blog will stay up. I will be always available. In fact I ‘m going to post up to the day it all begun, the 17th of February. So 50 posts more. And although this is not the end of the world, (I’ve heard that the Vikings’ myths have predicted the end of the world on that very day 😉 ) you will find that you will also have more time,too. Always look on the bright side of life! You can take photos in the dark, anyway! No it wasn’t meant to be just this 365 project, but as a trial it has failed because it demands too much time to be true to your viewers and fellow bloggers and artists. I’ve seen so many good things, but did it at the expense of other things.

    • Derek is a golden heart on the other side of the Atlantic. (and the Pacific if you head East) His devotion to film and mechanical cameras is unique. And his photos are uniquely personal and therefore widely universal. They deserve repeated visiting!

  3. more great pics……and Vassilis, I googled ‘Greece blogs’ and there aren’t a lot of them AT ALL….so you can’t use the ‘there are enough greek blogs out there so its no big deal if another one goes away” 😉

      • Lol….I’m gonna spend the next 30 posts of yours trying to dispel all your excuses, “I don’t have the time” Vassilis says……to which i say okay….how bout just one post per week….50 posts a year…surely that wouldn’t be too difficult?

        “no, 50 posts are too many….I don’t have the time” says Vassilis

        “okay, what about a bi-weekly photo? Only two photos per month….surely that could be done….no?”

        😉

        • Although the text that explains the reasons for my “early retirement” is almost ready, it will be posted with the last 400th post. However, you might help me with your playful remarks if I “serve ” some of them is advance.

          First off, I said that there are too many blogs out there. I didn’t mention Greek ones, because it is really not important. It is the inflation of the worldwide blogs that scares me. It means time consumed on writing and posting things. It means that other people take some time off their life to read and maybe comment. I know I’m one. Having followed many blogs (and being strict most of the time when I pushed follow) I found out that it takes 4 or 5 times the time it takes me to prepare and post my own. And commenting on them is extra time.
          If I feel depressed with this “communication” the communication itself is failing. I guess the reason for stopping altogether is because I can’t expect to post out there, without at least taking the time to look at the posts of the people that comment, like or follow. It is out of courtesy. And it is out of seeking an artist-person that his/her posts are an inspiration.

          By the way, I refrain from liking and commenting when I don’t agree or I don’t like some posts. I guess many people do that out of courtesy to me as well. It is next to impossible to have a long run of immaculate posts. But some of the blogs I have come by are a real waste of time. However many people like them! And I wonder and I fear that might be the case with my blog as well, although I have disabled “likes”, just to save people from any obligation.

          Anyway, even sending once or twice a month would create a similar problem to me. I can’t deny I had some hopes about the project, but life is a bit harsher than we hope it would be. I knew that and I am not let down. Just a square logical decision. No big fuss. I will still photograph, I will still be creative and I will also have time to see more of my kids.

          To expose my work to people was never my intention, although it would be very nice if this exposure helped me to develop as a photographer and a human being, or even to create some sort of professional opportunities, so that I can have the fun part combined with the useful . (Το τερπνόν μετά του ωφελίμου)

          I suppose I could keep the blog and publish as often as I like and stop following, replying and liking. But it would not be communicating, would it? It wouldn’t be right. And it would eventually be of no meaning if I acted as a simple one way gallery to “people out there”, because as I have stated I don’t even care for exposure. For 20 years, I have been working in jobs that provided me with time and money to do my photography without interference. But all in all it is time that matters and things that take up too much of your time actually transform you. I want to change but not this way. Not by spending my time in front of a screen.

          To sum it up, I think that the main reason for not posting is the load it brings with it, if you are a real person and you want to communicate with other people. Creating for me takes time away from the screen and some days I can’t have both, and I really prefer creating. I feel a terrible obligation to people that follow and post and comment and like. Because they spend time with my work. And the only thing I can give back is equal attention. But I can’t afford the time to do it anymore. Having no such obligation, I can regulate the time I spend reading other people’s blogs. I know it sounds peculiar, but maybe you can solve it for me! But it will end no matter what…

          • “I suppose I could keep the blog and publish as often as I like and stop following, replying and liking. But it would not be communicating, would it? It wouldn’t be right”

            I totally hear what you’re saying and agree with almost all of it except for this particular line….

            “it wouldn’t be right”

            I dunno…according to who? I would say who cares if you don’t comment or view other people’s blogs and you simply update yours once in awhile……..you don’t have to think of your webpage as a ‘blog’…merely change the way you view it; think of it as a ‘website’ and not a blog and that then perhaps it would take the pressure away from you feeling like you have to connect with everybody and view their sites and whatnot…..this way if you merely uploaded a picture once a week or once every other week it would take you a mere few minutes..nothing more nothing less…and when your bored or have extra time you can respond to comments, but you can have a disclaimer on your homepage that says you don’t respond to all comments because of time.

            I’ve been reading blogs for nearly a decade and only recently began commenting. In fact, there are a few blogs I’ve been reading for almost eight years and I’ve never once commented or hit ‘like’…….maybe I’m wrong…or maybe we just have two different views/philosophy on the subject.

            My blog/site gets a lot of traffic, I couldn’t in a million years look at everyone’s blogs who comment on mine; impossible. as far as the wordpress community I only ‘follow’ a handful of people….and only comment on a few…..and generally the people I’ve chosen to follow are people outside of my normal day-to-day life…..you’re in Greece and if not for this interaction I would have ZERO connection to life within Greece except for what I read on BBC News…..the same goes with people I follow in Australia, London, Ireland, and other countries……..I follow very few people in the U.S. because….well…..I already know what life is like in the U.S…..

            I also am very strict with my time; I’ve always been pretty good about setting up boundaries so I never blog or am on the Internet at times that it would take away from my family, friends and loved ones……the exception to this rule is my trips this year which are definitely going to take a lot of time but they are about building for my future which I am hoping will pay off in the long run.

            the simple fact of the matter is that I believe I am a huge time waster; before I began blogging I spent too much time in front of the television or pursuing activities that weren’t worth all that much intellectually…..

            also, I think perhaps there is another dimension you might be forgetting; before the advent of the Internet; correspondence through the mail was a major element of western culture. Thomas Jefferson & John Adams (presidents of the U.S.) sent each other hundreds upon hundreds of letters to each other, conversing, debating, and those letters became a major influence in the way American culture was shaped (for both the good and bad lol)

            thus, before the Internet I doubt there were very many people who looked at writing letters to each other as ‘time wasters”…..infact, the average person valued those letters tremendously. so now that writing letters is something that died in the past…..the Internet now serves humanity the way writing letters used to.

            .I agree with you that the problem with the average blog is that they are in fact a waste of time; 99% of blogs are trivial and trite……..perhaps I’m being elitist but I put a lot of thought and energy into every article I’ve ever written……and although there is nothing wrong with the trite and simple blogs…..we don’t have to feel that we have to read every one of them…….for many people blogging is therapeutic and saves them a lot of money from having to pay a therapist….and as someone who’s entire life was about therapy a short while ago….I’m glad that blogging is helping those people………but I don’t have to read all their blogs just cuz they are publishing them 😉

            also…….(you’re probably hating me right now for the length of this comment) the media in the last couple decades has taken a turn for the worse. Lets be honest, do you and I really value the media? I don’t….its a bunch of bunk; its trivial and its all biased…..there are very few objective forms of media that I respect……

            journalism is at an all time low……and so even though we have to deal with all the bad that comes with the whole blogging experience……there is a lot of good…there are many bloggers who newspapers and magazines would never hire; yet these bloggers are offering much more substantive opinions and thoughts than any media form.

          • one more thought (sorry!!)

            1) I’m not trying to say you’re ‘wrong’ to stop blogging/keeping your page up…if you decide for sure to quit…obviously its simply a choice…right, wrong, morality have nothing to do with it……but my last (rather long comment sorry) was merely trying to point out that you don’t have to look at your site as a ‘blog’ but if you look at it as a ‘website’ perhaps any pressure you’ve been feeling might dissipate

            2) you asked me a month or two ago (or maybe longer I’m bad with time) ‘what good is really accomplished via blogging, are we really making a difference?” and at the time I couldn’t really give you a definitive answer…..so now after thinking about your question for awhile here’s my answer;

            I’m about to meet with somewhere between 1000 to 7000 bloggers, readers all around the U.S. and the world so perhaps I will find out if blogging and posting articles online is able to make a difference in people’s lives……I know from the emails I get that people have said I’ve had a positive influence in their life…but how can I really know unless I meet them face to face and see what I really shall see…….

            okay…I’ve taken enough of your time

            • Hey Kenneth, thank you! What a wonderful essay! I wish we could discuss it in person!

              Some of your points reminded me of a discussion I was having summers ago over fruit (not coffee, sorry!). I was talking with one of my cousins about the work of art (it started with music to be more specific, but from a point, it was about art in general) and if its role is fulfilled only if it is presented to the public. The initial thoughts were that if you create something, you have to “communicate” it with the public and if you do, it has to be in the best way you can. If you don’t reveal it to anyone how can we know it ever existed? We reached the point of hypothesis and we had a disagreement. He was saying that if a work of art made 2000-3000 years ago, was never found, it could not have an impact on our present society. I, on the other hand, claimed that what really mattered was the fact that somebody made them and secondary that somebody saw/listened/experienced/communicated with the art created. The influence could have spread through the work of the people that saw the original piece of art and from them to somebody else ‘s work and so on. Even if non of these works but the very last was saved, until our days, (maybe distorted through so many works and people), it can influence us. Of course, the problem from there is to have the fine education that will allow you to get the original or/and best things out of each experience/work of art etc. And the even bigger problem is the plethora of things that you have to face in our modern society. It is really an inflation of thoughts, news, information, art, cheap pleasure etc. You will probably miss it anyway. And unfortunately as with every thing that suffers inflation, it loses part of its value.

              So I guess he was right! 😉

              But my point was that creating art as a process is valuable on its own, even if the results are not considered art. Even if the results are lost in time, the human being who went through this process came out a bit different, dare I say a bit better? And this change could have passed through his acquiescence and actually influence someone, up to our time. Because if art has a definite reason for being, is to make people better, to reveal the potential for greatness people possess, and motivate them to go out and fight for them. But as I stated, most if not all of the benefits are lost, due to the lack of time people in the world experience and also due to the vast number of blogs/sites etc.

              Many good points. Can’t really argue with any of them, it is more of a question of how much they weight in you.

              I kind of like the original snail mail. It was personal, had one recipient and the content was not readily available to anybody, unless one of the two people concerned decided to publish it. All these are more or less available with email. The snail mail had the additional bonus of having a common physical medium. I guess there are many diamonds in the internet world, addressed to all of us, but with all the “marketing” ways used to enhance visibility, it is like looking for a needle in a haystack, the size of Himalaya.

              I like the idea of a webpage, but I would only create one for professional reasons. I am not after publicity for the sake of publicity or psycho analysis. Since I started in a blog format, the name of the game is quite different. I guess it was a matter of time to be found by few people. And then it became a matter of courtesy. I like communicating with people, but I don’t have time to do it the way I consider proper. Naming it a webpage is kind of fooling myself and the people that might visit. And anyway, what’s the use in sending posts available to anyone, and then avoiding any other contact with them. What’s the use when I don’t feel a strong purpose in “communicating” the photos? (At least not this way, not right now) Chances are that it will sink like lead. It will be self sabotage. So back to square one.

              I will be glad to keep in touch with whoever wishes, by email. And although I still haven’t figure out what is the fuss about blogging, I feel that the medium itself is stronger than the message it may contain.

              • Well perhaps we will be able to discuss it in person….hopefully I’ll know in the next week or so if Can add Greece to the list….right now it looks like I’m going to be able too 🙂

                • Will be glad to meet you Kenneth! And take a cup of coffee over to the top of Lycabetus hill and contemplate all the problems of living while watching Athens fade into the night.

  4. love the discussion btwn you and culturemonk 🙂 i have only to say– that i love your photos and will be sad when /if you stop posting entirely! you are an inspiration and you made a difference to me, but if you stop, that is ok too, because you will be communicating wherever you are. (also, these photos are beautiful! that was what i wanted to type first before I saw the discussion hehe)

    I offer this quote by Aiweiwei: “It’s like if you throw something into a river: it immediately disappears, but it’s in there and it changes the volume of the river, depending on how many objects are thrown in. I’ve already published over two hundred articles, interviews and writings, commentaries about art, culture, politics, newspaper cuttings, etc., on my blog. I find that this is the most interesting gift to me, or even to China, because we live in a society where self-expression is not encouraged and can even damage you. People are afraid to write anything down.”

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